Wednesday, October 20, 2010

Legion of Super-Heroes #6 Review

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What Happened That You Have to Know About: Not a lot, really; this is kind of a wrap-up issue for some of the stuff relating to Earth-Man and the Titanians. There are a few minor missions this issue (some Titanians who have to be told to keep off the grass; a stray xenophobe; a forest fire) but nothing to write home about. Earth-Man gets officially pardoned and remains with the Legion; he gets a regular flight ring but it turns out that whatever behaviour modification stuff Brainy put in the last one wasn't working as well as he thought it was. Colossal Boy's mom is president again; did we already know that? The last of the displaced Titanians find homes. Cosmic Boy calls an election, the new Karate Kid may be showing up, fake-Zendak and Gigi ask for the Legion's help in protecting the United Planets council against assassins.

Review:

I have to say I like the way the subplot with the Titanian refugees was handled. Usually, when a planet blows up, that's about the last we hear about it. In the first arc of this series, there were all kinds of repercussions, and it made these comics ring true.

Also I like Earth-Man's new attitude. He's not a time bomb who's going to explode once he takes Brainy's "mood ring" off, and I'm glad that we don't have that hanging over our heads. He hasn't changed unrealistically. He's just swallowed an unwelcome truth, that's all. I'd be shocked if his "relationship" with Shadow Lass was destined to last any time, though.

I am curious about all those people who were hanging out at the Legion Academy. Power Boy, Crystal Kid, Visi-Lad, the Skreeaks, Lamprey, Nightwind, Urk... why are they all there? Are they all still students? Is it alumni week? Are they instructors? I mean, I'm not surprised Comet Queen's still there; when you get a character as distinct as her, you hang on to her. Plus she's a loser, so it's quite possible that she's still at it.

The other new characters, though... Mixed, I'd say. If that really is the new Karate Kid, there's nothing about him that's captured my interest so far. Chemical Kid is a little treat for the nostalgists, and I am not a nostalgist. Gravity Kid isn't that cool of an idea. Variable Lad I do like, quite a bit; he's Dr. Gym'll's race, right? Must be. His costume eats it, but I like his powers. As for Dragonwing, I don't know if I like her, but she looks awesome with that translucent dragoncloak, and her powers are decently nonstandard, too.

With this little Academy backup (and the temporary departures of Lightning Lad, Saturn Girl, Lightning Lass, Shrinking Violet, Mon-El, and Polar Boy), we get the return of one of Levitz's favourite Legion themes: The Legion Is Spread Too Thin! How is Cosmic Boy supposed to run the Legion when crises are erupting everywhere and he doesn't have enough personnel? Those Academy students better train fast!

When the solicit for the Annual came out, and it was learned that Ayla and Vi were going to be the main Legionnaires on the scene, it quite naturally led some of us to speculate on whether Levitz was going to revive the idea that the two of them were a couple. (Levitz was the one who thought it up in the first place, anyway.) Well, they leave Earth this issue on their way to Imsk, which sets up the Annual, and their body language (page 11, panel 3) certainly does nothing to dispel that idea. But while we're on the subject, maybe they're not the only same-sex couple Levitz has brewing for us. Just what exactly is keeping Mon-El and Polar Boy on Tharr for so long? I don't want to put too much weight on that; there are all kinds of possible answers to that question. A couple of plausible ones: Mon-El is helping Polar Boy regrow his hand with Daxamite medical science. Polar Boy is consoling Mon-El after Mon's breakup with Shady by introducing him to the sister of whoever he was in bed with in #1, maybe one of the same chickiepoos that Sun Boy couldn't get anywhere with back in Adventure #3.

On the one hand you've got Jim Shooter and on the other hand you've got Paul Levitz. Jim Shooter shows us Triton and the Scattered Disk and other exotic locales of our own solar system. Paul Levitz gives us Jewish culture and Tibetan culture and the Painted Desert. Comics!

I accept Shady's reasoning for testing out Earth-Man's absorbancy boy. I mean, she's an idiot, but it's true to her character. Which, now that I've typed that, means that I know what my take on her is going to be for the The Legionnaires article I write about her, I guess. But does she think he likes her? Does she care? I don't know. For all I know, he does like her, although I kind of doubt it.

Notes:
- who's that between Lamprey and Nightwind in panel 1 of page 24? I can't recall if I've seen her before or not
- also, in the panel with the hall of dead Legionnaire statues, I can tell who everyone is, but who's that between Karate Kid and Karate Kid? Is it Mentalla?
- Cosmic Boy mentally asks his mom to forgive him for Magnetic Kid's death. Are we to believe that his mother's alive in this continuity? Or am I misinterpreting?
- this is, of course, the second time (at least!) we've seen Colossal Boy and Phantom Girl in the Himalayas (and I'm glad that Levitz has learned to spell it over the years)
- in the final confrontation with Earth-Man, Brainy only says two and a half words. I didn't think that was possible
- quote from Luornu: "I told Chuck I'd have more fun here than at his dumb reunion!" I hope she means by that that she went to both of them. She has, after all, no excuse not to

Panel Count: Let's break the three different parts down separately. Main story (Portela): 63 panels/14 pages = 4.5 panels/page; no single-panel pages. Backup (Jimenez): 94 panels/15 pages = 6.3 panels/page (very high!). Two single-panel pages and one 14-panel page! I approve of Jimenez. Election Call (Cinar): 6 panels/1 page.

Three different artists working on this one, and they all looked great. I like how Cinar treated Matter-Eater Lad's face (has Tenzil always had those fingerless gloves? Other than in panel 4, I mean), I particularly liked how Jiminez packed so much stuff into his pages, but still felt free to indulge himself on page 25, panel 5. Portela's new to me, but I like what I see so far, and took particular note of how he seems to like to arrange narrow panels beside/below each other, with one of them spilling out of its boundaries and the others not. (Although the way Shady's cloak sort of faded into dark nothingness behind her didn't really work for me.) If Jiminez is really drawing the new Academy series, it's going to be unusually good.

Membership Notes: The Legion election has thrown all my understanding of the membership into disarray. For one thing, Chameleon Girl is listed on the ballot, but she wasn't on the Mission Monitor Board a couple of issues ago. For another, the ballot didn't have Lightning Lad and Saturn Girl on it, presumably because they're on some kind of leave of absence as of this issue. But Mon-El and Polar Boy aren't? Or Lightning Lass and Violet? It is all, as Artemus Ward would have said, onsartin.

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58 Comments:

Anonymous Darrell Lawrence said...

Notes:
- who's that between Lamprey and Nightwind in panel 1 of page 24? I can't recall if I've seen her before or not


Mandalla

- also, in the panel with the hall of dead Legionnaire statues, I can tell who everyone is, but who's that between Karate Kid and Karate Kid? Is it Mentalla?

Yep. Mentalla.

- Cosmic Boy mentally asks his mom to forgive him for Magnetic Kid's death. Are we to believe that his mother's alive in this continuity? Or am I misinterpreting?

I think you're misinterpreting. Sometimes I talk to my mom, making a comment somewhat similar to Cos, ir "I hope I'm doing you proud, Mom.", and my mom's passed on too.

- this is, of course, the second time (at least!) we've seen Colossal Boy and Phantom Girl in the Himalayas (and I'm glad that Levitz has learned to spell it over the years)

Makes you wonder if the two of them are far too familiar with the area LOL

- in the final confrontation with Earth-Man, Brainy only says two and a half words. I didn't think that was possible

Ok. This scene I had a prob with. Brainy has been brave enough to talk down anyone. And he has his force-shield. Why didn't he turn it on?

- quote from Luornu: "I told Chuck I'd have more fun here than at his dumb reunion!" I hope she means by that that she went to both of them. She has, after all, no excuse not to

Did you notice the ID tag changed her name to Duplicate Girl rather than Duplicate Damsel?

5:00 AM  
Anonymous Darrell Lawrence said...

Oh yeah... forgot to mention: Gim's mom isn't Prez again. She's just on the Council.

Membership: Imra and Garth going to reserve staus I'd imagine. Not quitting, but not active either. Just inactive status.

Mon-El and Polar Boy may be on assignment, while Vi and Ayla are on vacation. Speaking of those two, Ayla and Brin have been shown somewhat to be back together, and now this. IF Brin and Ayla are indeed officially back together, then Brin may end up being one happy dude LOL

5:18 AM  
Blogger Matthew E said...

I dunno... Timber Wolf doesn't really seem like Vi's kind of guy. Well, in the threeboot they got along, I guess, but that was different.

It's the wording that bugs me about Rokk's mom. He says, "Will you ever forgive me?" As in, so far she definitely hasn't.

Didn't notice Duplicate Girl. Not sure I like it better.

9:16 AM  
Anonymous Haggard Lad said...

I like the name Duplicate Girl much better than Duplicate Damsel. I think it sounds better and it reminds me of her old Triplicate Girl name.

5:48 PM  
Blogger Matthew E said...

"Duplicate Girl" does roll off the tongue a bit better. On the other hand, "Duo Damsel" had a touch of imagination that, to me, "Triplicate Girl" lacked.

7:05 PM  
Anonymous Darrell Lawrence said...

It's the wording that bugs me about Rokk's mom. He says, "Will you ever forgive me?" As in, so far she definitely hasn't.

It'd probably make more sense if you refreshed yourself on his family setting.

Legion of Super-Heroes v2 297 should explain a lot and give a reason for him saying it that way: He felt the fireballing was his fault by bringing the family to Earth in the first place.

So to me, his comment isn't actually about whether his mom forgives him or not, but whether he can forgive himself, with his mom already having been killed BECAUSE of him (in his thinking).

9:10 PM  
Blogger Matthew E said...

It could very well be so.

9:19 PM  
Anonymous peter vandeneneg said...

this is the first time since the retroboot that we've seen pol ANYWHERE in continuity... he was in the big group-sing in Lo3W #5, but that that means nothing. so was flederweb.

he's not been in ANY of the shots we've seen of the memorial hall (which keeps getting re-arranged, apparently), OR in any of the group fantasias we've had so MANY of in these past couple of years. (by that i mean group shots that include the dead and the gone and the whamever...)

i'd actually thought that he might be the newnew karate kid, based on the line in Lo3W, that 'no one was surprised except cosmic boy'...

———

where have we seen mandalla? i've heard her name bandied around, but i'm drawing a blank.

3:25 AM  
Anonymous Darrell Lawrence said...

Mandalla

5:22 AM  
Blogger Matthew E said...

this is the first time since the retroboot that we've seen pol ANYWHERE in continuity...

True, but that was more important when Johns was running the show. Levitz has said that the Magic Wars is his cutoff, so we could have assumed Pol's membership without verification.

8:51 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Do you guys think that Levitz is choosing to ignore some of the continuity set by Johns regarding this version of the Legion?

12:58 PM  
Blogger Matthew E said...

I think he's willing to if he thinks it's appropriate.

1:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

in your opinion what would you think would be appropriate to ignore? Why would it be?

1:14 PM  
Blogger Matthew E said...

Depends on what he wants to use, what kinds of stories he wants to tell, what he thinks adds possibilities, things like that. He seems to be ignoring Night Girl's membership, and I'm okay with that; I can't tell if he's ignoring Yera's membership or not. It'd be okay with me if he ignored Brad Meltzer's brainwave about Wildfire being Red Tornado with a new coat of paint.

1:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

To me it feels like his ignoring certain crucial aspects about Earth-Man because in this new series he feels like an almost totally different character. Like how Earth-Man very clearly states that he hates all aliens in Legion of 3 worlds and says he hates the Legion because they rejected him, in the story in Action Comics by Johns. I say this because it contradicts with what he says in issue 5 about never hating the Legion and only doing what he did for Earth's sake. And It makes very little sense to me how Shadow Lass could forgive him so easily after what he put the Legion through, especially since she knows Earth-Man through Mon-El back into the Phantom Zone. The only way I can make sense of it is if Shadow Lass does not really care for Mon-El, but I don,t think she could be that insensitive.

1:41 PM  
Blogger Matthew E said...

Well, different writers will have different takes on characters, and we have to cut them some slack on things like that. But in this case I don't see much of a conflict; Earth-Man is pretty obviously ambivalent about the Legion: he loves it and hates it. Dangerous! His feelings about aliens are similar; in the space of an issue he goes from Shady's bed to telling Brainy that he doesn't like offworlders. And it's not something that Levitz got from nowhere, either; in that Action story he'd rather hang out with Radiation Roy and Tusker than, say, Lightning Lad and Saturn Girl, and you can't tell me that Garth and Imra aren't more recognizably human than those psycho yutzes.

As for Shadow Lass's motivations, that takes some doing, but it's not a case of Levitz ignoring previous characterizations. I'm going to write more about Shadow Lass one of these days.

1:58 PM  
Anonymous Darrell Lawrence said...

My review is here.

As for Paul ignoring John's stuff, I've only seen minor corrections of things. He's actually kept quite a bit. And if he does ignore something now, it doesn't mean it is out. All it means is there is no follow-up story YET.

And Earth Man says in #6 that he does indeed hate aliens, and since he's talking to Brainy, he even says he especially hates him. And that is a fellow Legionnaire. So no change there. Shadow Lass also explains why she went for Earth Man, and for her character and background, it makes sense.

2:00 PM  
Blogger Matthew E said...

Although it's probably pretty tempting to overstate your hate when talking to Brainy.

Levitz is being a lot more accommodating than I might be in his case. I'm not at all interested in a new Karate Kid, but Levitz is going along with it. I don't give a rat about the 31st-century GLC, but Levitz is actually spending a lot of time on it.

2:40 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Responding to Mr. Lawrence

Could please elaborate on what you mean by "for her character and background" specifically when you talk about Shadow Lass.

4:20 PM  
Blogger Murray said...

With regard to Shady's character and background... the reboot and threeboot Shady have been portrayed as warrior women... they came from a warrior culture, and now, current Shady seems to be taking on a bit of that characterization. Which isn't exactly a stretch. Talok VIII (her homeworld) is still pretty savage, even though I haven't ever seen Levitz' Shady to be particularly so. Determined and singleminded? Yep, fer sure! Battle-hungry and bloodthirsty... not so much.

But even if we look at current Shady's history, she's long had a history of being attracted to powerful men. She joined the Legion as much out of her romantic interest in Brainiac Five as to do good.

And then she attached herself to Mon-el, the single most powerful Legionnaire.

So she's a lady that knows what she wants and goes for it, and powerful men are certainly something that gets her blood going.

6:06 PM  
Anonymous Darrell Lawrence said...

Murray just said what I would have, though I would have added in a definitive showing from when Shady and Mon-El fought Lady Memory and Persuader on Talok VIII.

8:29 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am not familiar with the story of the battle with Lady Memory or how it relates to what Shadow Lass did in the recent series. Could you please explain?

10:14 PM  
Anonymous Darrell Lawrence said...

Simple: Per Paul Levitz, the writer of Legion, regarding the pre-Crisis Legion up to through the Magic Wars, aka the Baxter Series #63, the last issue of classic Legion- that history is intact with the retroboot/current Legion.

Now, to the Lady Memory clash...

Legion of Super-Heroes v2 #318 and #314.

She is a priestess granted the power to bring back memories to those she touches. But that's besides the point. In this two parter, some history of Talok VIII is divulged, to include a bit on Shadow Lasses family history.

Lady Memory has gathered people from mountain tribes to try to take over. Tribes being a key word here, as they warred on each other back in the day. Shadow Lasses ancestors defeated and killed off Lady Memory's ancestors, with her being the reincarnation of them.

The above sets up the warrior aspect of Shady.

As for Mon-El, even the other Talokians are impressed with his might, he being the mightiest Legionairre at that time.

Shadow Lass, in Legion history, first tried to latch on with Brainiac 5, then sunk her nails into Mon-El.

Given the way things looked on Talok VIII in that two parter, it's pretty clear that it's the strong tribes that survive and rule the planet, while other tribes are looked down upon.

10:54 PM  
Anonymous Jim Davis said...

A few questions:

1. Page 24: Who is in the second small panel with the Westerner? That is the Westerner, right?

2. Page 25: Are we supposed to recognize the face between the Sensor Girl and Karate Kid symbols?

3. Page 30: In the Hall of Heroes panel is the first statue on the left supposed to be Reflecto?

Some comments:

1. I found the whole motivation for Shadow Lass' attraction to Earth Man to be really reaching. Earth Man isn't a warrior, he's a mass murderer. I can see SL being attracted to someone who shows a certain amount of nobility and courage even in a wrong cause but EM is not that man. He's a sure thing killer who beats up on weak opposition. SL/EM is more analogous to Mysa/Mordru than to, say, Sue Storm and Namor. I hope Levitz has some deeper motivation to be revealed in good time.

2. Did anyone else find the panel of Projectra sleeping with the bloody tunic of Karate Kid to be more than a little creepy? I voted Sensor Girl for leader before I read this issue. I'm not sure I still would have.

2:03 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You are a good man Jim, a good man indeed.

8:32 AM  
Blogger Matthew E said...

Jim

1. Oh, yeah, him. I dunno. Anybody? (I'm sure an answer will show up somewhere on the Legion World boards if nobody here knows.)

2. No, I think it's just some kind of Orandan ornament. But it does remind me of something from Amethyst. Kind of like Dark Opal's cloak-clasp.

3. I was assuming Reflecto, yeah.

1. I agree, but maybe Earth-Man has successfully snowed her. Either way I can't see it ending well.

2. Of course it's creepy! But Jeckie's always been a little different. It's not necessarily pathologically creepy.

I like this whole conversation that just happened here. I didn't have to lift a finger.

10:20 AM  
Anonymous Jack Applin said...

Colossal Boy's mom is president again; did we already know that?

She’s not. Marte says that she’s on the “Earthgov council”. Also, Gim says that “It’s not as bad as when she was president of Earth".

11:39 PM  
Blogger Matthew E said...

Thanks. Shows you how closely I read that part.

11:43 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A lot of territory was covered this ish,so much so that it's easy to ignore their lack of progression.This book has more story lines than it can hold;good thing Adventure will now be available to take the spillover.
The Shady/Earth-Man lustmance is easy to explain;she's on the rebound and he finds her attractive.That she hooks up with him should stir up some bad karma.As for him,racists have no trouble crossing racial lines to score some nooky;remember Stromm Thurmond?
The Brainy/Earth-Man scene was way out of character for Brainy.It has to be playacting on his part.And still no clues on what he wants with the cockroaches?
The Legion Academy never fired me up the way it does others,but since the Legion has left their rookie status behind,the students can fill that hole.These students prove that Nature abhors a Legionnaire-shaped vacuum.A Chemical Kid to replace a King,a Dragonwing with a bit of the Dragonmage look,and even another Karate Kid in the wings.Old and new combined.
That symbol between the PP and KK logos looks familiar.Was it from the death of Karate Kid issues?
The problem with the storylines in this run is that after the big build-ups,the wrap-ups are very limp.Earth-Man is chosen as Green Lantern? He just tosses the ring away;dilemma resolved.The Ranzz twins are kidnapped by the cult of Darkseid? Their family comes and gets them before anything happens. Phew,and PU.Feels like these stories just stopped rather than came to a conclusion.Levitz should put more thought to moving forward and less to running in place.

2:52 AM  
Blogger Ben Rawluk said...

And still no clues on what he wants with the cockroaches?

That's sort of obvious, isn't it? Cockroaches are connected to the latest version of the Time Trapper, so I assume he's working on a new defense strategy, or trying to understand how the Trapper might develop.

And I know it's happening over in ADVENTURE too, but I assume that Young Brainy was pulled into LO3W with everyone else and was forewarned as a result...

That symbol between the PP and KK logos looks familiar.Was it from the death of Karate Kid issues?

The face -- sort of a distorted GREEN MAN figure? -- was common during the original Giffen/Levitz days, it connects to Orando and the Orandan magics. It was pretty Giffen-specific, so I think he used similar images in his old Doctor Fate back-ups for THE FLASH.

On the whole, I liked the sixth issue, enough that I actually picked it up after not being particularly into the previous couple issues. Francis Portela's artwork is an improvement over Cinar (at least with the poor inking on Cinar). The back-up really proved that I want Jimenez on the whole comic, though; he manages to present the right amount of panel information density to remind me of Giffen.

Plot-wise, it was all over the place. I can't really parse out Shady/Kirt because it doesn't make any sense, even if you handwave her warrior bloodlust, but I'm open.

The Founders retire every other issue back in the old days, so that was vaguely entertaining for me.

Part of me hopes that Levitz will introduce some 5 Years Later characters. Celeste, in particular.

1:01 PM  
Blogger Matthew E said...

And still no clues on what he wants with the cockroaches?

That's sort of obvious, isn't it? Cockroaches are connected to the latest version of the Time Trapper, so I assume he's working on a new defense strategy, or trying to understand how the Trapper might develop.


Note also that Brainy and Circadia Senius are still friends. This rules out any kind of visceral or irrational reaction Brainy has about the roaches.

4:57 PM  
Blogger Mart said...

I love all the comments and speculation here. I'm not comfortable with the Shady/Earth-Man business, but she's long struck me as a bit off ... that business with the finger, for example.

7:23 PM  
Blogger Matthew E said...

Ah, the finger! More about that later.

7:58 PM  
Blogger Murray said...

Ahh... I *loved* the finger! Loved, loved, loved that scene way back when. Can't even explain why I like it so much, except that it really speaks to the depth of feeling that Shady had for Mon-el.
Which makes their current break-up more than a little unsettling.

9:18 PM  
Blogger Matthew E said...

I wonder if Levitz is going to explain that or just leave it as a routine thing that happens to people.

10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So the Time Trapper is now a more evolved cockroach?Ewww.Still, that's better than his being Superboy-Prime.
The Shady/Mon-El breakup needs no explanation for my sake.They've been together over the span of,what,40 years?Plenty long. Splitting them up is Paul's way of telling us that nothing is safe or sacred or to be taken for granted. Anything can happen.

11:07 PM  
Blogger Matthew E said...

Well, no, I don't think he is a cockroach. But he seems to have some kind of connection with them, even if it's only coincidental or symbolic.

Then again, if you read Legion of 3 Worlds and its preludes and stuff, the cockroaches are equally symbolic of the Legionnaires and of you and me. So I don't know where that gets us.

11:12 PM  
Anonymous Rob said...

Thought that the overall wrap-up in the main story was weak (as a few people have commented). I think one of my problems with the current run is that the Legion hasn't really been taxed in a big fight for a few issues. Sure, they took out a gang of amped up humans last issue and Timberwolf and E-Man took down some ship. But there's too much talk and exposition (and not enough action) for me at the moment.

Looking back at this first six-issue arc, I think I'd have been a little disappointed if I'd bought it as a trade paperback. I liked the Saturn Queen fight. But then issues 5 and 6 kind of fizzled out.

Hopefully the Harmonia Li thing in the next issue will set up some big badass thing that will give the Legion a hard time and make them have to work together as a team in combat. That's what I like to see best.

The back-up was fun. We see these 'kids trying to do their best' stories all the time in X-Men, Justice League and all the big team comics. Kinda sweet. But not sure I'd buy a Legion Academy comic, even with Phil's great artwork (I've not really seen his work before, but it reminds me a lot of George Perez - although I'm sure you more experienced Jiminez fans will probably already have commented on that years ago).

4:57 AM  
Blogger Matthew E said...

I think one of my problems with the current run is that the Legion hasn't really been taxed in a big fight for a few issues. Sure, they took out a gang of amped up humans last issue and Timberwolf and E-Man took down some ship. But there's too much talk and exposition (and not enough action) for me at the moment.

Well, Levitz likes to vary the level of opposition. It's a trick that DnA (for instance) never learned. If it keeps going like this, without any big fights, then that's one thing, but in general I wouldn't want to take any one arc as representative.

9:44 AM  
Anonymous Maurice said...

I want to second what Ben Rawluk suggested. I hope Levitz figures out how to integrate some of the 5 Year Later characters.

Personally, I have found Levitz's LSH v6 issues to be thoroughly enjoyable. It is very easy to draw cars and buildings exploding. However, his scripts force artists to tell engaging stories through body language.

2:15 PM  
Blogger Matthew E said...

It might be nice. But only if he really wants to.

Of all the Legionnaires whose memberships were in the Five Year Gap or later, the one I want to see is Computo, who, after all, was Levitz's idea in the first place.

2:31 PM  
Anonymous Rob said...

I want to second what Ben Rawluk suggested. I hope Levitz figures out how to integrate some of the 5 Year Later characters.

I, for one, hope NOT to see the characters from the 5 Years Later period. I didn't warm to many of them (although if I were to re-read the series, I might find a few that were actually okay). I think the bigger problem would be that it would confuse the series even more. For the foreseeable future, I hope Levitz sticks with the existing cast in order not to baffle newer readers. We need for newer readers to fall in love with the core cast of characters before we introduce yet more new faces into regular continuity!

11:24 AM  
Blogger Matthew E said...

Fair enough. Although Danielle would actually be a pretty easy one to introduce.

11:37 AM  
Blogger Ben Rawluk said...

Danielle would be an excellent opportunity to (a) remind the readership that members of the team beside Gim have families, (b) bring back Levitz's original idea, and (c) do a Computo story without resorting to the usual hijinx.

That said, she does trigger all those "super-technology" powers concerns that have been voiced about the character in the past. IE: 31st Century technology can do whatever is needed, so she'd be godlike.

2:24 AM  
Blogger Matthew E said...

Right, but since this is effectively a do-over, Levitz can redefine her powers however he wants. The only in-continuity manifestation of her powers was that weird spark when she walked through the portal the issue after Brainy cured her. That leaves a lot of leeway.

9:00 AM  
Blogger MaGnUs said...

Am I the only one bothered about how difficult it was for them to figure out how to put a fire with such variety of powers in the Academy group?

Variable Lad has to become super smart and learn what's the best way of putting out the fire: using the Chemical Kid's powers, because fire is an oxidation. Uhm... and they needed a super intelligent being to figure that out?

Regardless of him being a student and not a battle-hardened Legionnaire, a guy whose powers are to control chemical reactions should think of that first, particularly in the 30th century, with the kind of education they have, plus any further education someone with chemical controlling powers should get on the subject. Controlling the oxidation should be a gut response from Chemical Kid, the same as Bataranging or punching a bank robber is Batman's!

Not to mention the fact that there's two veteran Legionnaires there (Cosmic Boy and Duplicate Girl), and a handful of other students, most of whom should have a pretty advanced science education when compared to today's teenagers or young adults. Anyone today with a barely decent education should know that a fire is a chemical reaction.

On another matter... what "business with the finger"? What am I missing?

3:18 PM  
Blogger Matthew E said...

You're right; this is part of the problem with powers like Chemical Kid (and King). Shrug your shoulders and go with it.

On another matter... what "business with the finger"? What am I missing?

Toward the end of Levitz's last run, Mon-El had been seriously injured by the Time Trapper. Shady married him while he was unconscious, partly because she thought it'd be her last chance and partly so she'd be legally able to make important medical decisions for him. As part of this particular Talokian marriage ceremony, she cut off part of one of her fingers.

3:33 PM  
Blogger MaGnUs said...

No, I don't shrug my shoulders and continue, I rant on my blog! :) And I remember her marrying Mon-El while he was in a coma, I just didn't remember the finger part... I might have missed that issue, since getting the books back then was hard here.

3:35 PM  
Blogger MaGnUs said...

Oh, that's why I knew your name and blog, we're both on Teenagers From The Future.

3:38 PM  
Blogger Matthew E said...

Oh, that's why I knew your name and blog, we're both on Teenagers From The Future.

You only just realized that now? C'mon, man!

4:01 PM  
Blogger MaGnUs said...

What I mean is that I just noticed what blog I was posting on. :) I was writing my column, and I didn't have my Legion issue here, just my notes... so I needed to find the name of the Academy characters, and searched for some reviews... and clicked on this one.

I KNOW who you are. :)

BTW, "humpi" is one of the funniest word verifications ever... it sounds like a replacement pet for Cham after Proty and Proty II. "Don't be afraid, Phantom Girl, that blob humping your leg is just Humpi!"

4:13 PM  
Blogger Mart said...

Hey, I reviewed that book!

http://dangermart.blogspot.com/2008/10/teenagers-from-future-review.html?showComment=1225061280000

4:15 PM  
Blogger MaGnUs said...

"My favourite essay is Martin A Perez's Fashion from the future, or 'I swear, Computo Forced Me To Wear This'. It's written at the level of a great fanzine article - light, entertaining and insightful."

WOW!!! Thank you, Mart! That's MY essay... I don't know how I missed this review, since I've googled for reviews a few times...

Glad you enjoyed the book, and in particular, my work. You might like my blog, The Dissector, which is about comics in general and not just the Legion, but it's still me writing. :)

4:24 PM  
Blogger Mart said...

Oh, that looks a fun blog - am now following!

(Wonder if you were named after St Martin De Porres too!)

4:32 PM  
Blogger MaGnUs said...

Nope, not him. I was named after Martin Luther King, and the name was also chosen because with the exception of the accent over the "i", it's written the same in English and Spanish (I was born in the US from parents who didn't know at the time when they'd be able to return home to Uruguay). I do prefer the Spanish pronounciation (closer to Marteen, but with a short "ee" sound), though.

6:42 PM  
Blogger Matthew E said...

What I mean is that I just noticed what blog I was posting on.

I was wondering.

Hey, I reviewed that book!

Oh, so you did. I think I noticed that before.

7:10 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just this moment,it hit me...how do we know this new Karate Kid is real?The only time he appears,he's alone.The scene is narrated by a possibly sleeping Projectra, who casts illusions.Perhaps this Kid is a subconscious manifestation of her grief.
The real mystery here is how long will it be before this matter is addressed.

5:03 PM  
Blogger Matthew E said...

Strictly speaking we don't know, but Geoff Johns did leave some hints about a new Karate Kid, so it wouldn't be unusual if we actually got one.

10:39 PM  

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